Quality of Officials in NLS

[portugull]

On Saturday Jeffers on his debut scored what would have been the Match Winner in the 88th minute and even from Bristows Bench we could see it was no way offside.
Paul Wotton, who has been in Football all his life, the away fans, the press,and in particular Jeffers and the Popside knew it was onside except the Linesman with the Flag.

Not for the first time this season we have been denied a goal or a Penalty via St Albans by pure incompetence.The Penalty denied in the St Albans game was an assault on Mussa not a tackle right in front of the Ref.

I would love to know what processes exist to weed out Referees and Lines Officials who are simply not up to the standard required to ref at Professional Level.

Is an Assessor at every game? Why did the Ref not overule the Lino?

Does the Club receive a Report after every game from the Referee when a major error affects the Result. Does a process exist or not?

This is not sour grapes but an attempt to draw attention to extremely poor officiating on numerous occasions this season both Home and Away.

[Brewers boy]

I believe that to get suspended you have to call a manager you don't like a c**t and call his team s**t as David Coote has just found out
He'll probably be reffing in this league next month

[The Eternal Optimist]

Up to the disallowed the goal, I thought the ref was having a pretty good game. I thought he got most decisions right. He obviously couldn't call the offside, and, but for the linesman flagging, I guess he would have given the goal. It's not possible to tell from the highlights whether the scorer was standing offside. I thought he ran onto the ball from an onside position.

[Yellow6]

As a ref, and not one at NLS standard, it is extremely rare the lino will be overruled as the lino is in line and the ref has an obscure angle of the line.
Players will always ask why doesn't the ref overrule but he doesn't have the lateral view...............although neither does the lino it would appear.
Should I bring my kit to the next home game just in case?

[portugull]

I agree the Ref on Saturday did a decent job and I fully understand it is very rare that the Ref over rules the lino although I have seen it happen very rarely though.

Is anyone able to answer my questions re the Assessor and the issue of the Refs report if and when a major error affects the result of the game.

[culmstockgull]

My argurment is not with the officials at our level but the huge disparity in ability, it appears the FA think we will give this group a go in the NLS and some may make it for the next season, some may not. I thought the female ref at the salisbury game was superb, explained her decisions to any who wanted it and was largely anonymous, the female the previous saturday was hopeless but no worse than some of the men we have seen at plainmoor this season. there seems to be no quality control, additionally complaining about ref's by management is a hanging offence, they are more of a protected species than goal keepers.

[Gull1899]

Even withstanding the ridiculous ‘offside’ which to be fair was the lino, i thought the ref was really detrimental to the game.

Not for decisions made but the fact he seemed to stop the game all the time, talking to players all the time before a corner, after a corner, after any foul. Essentially making it all about him & fracturing any momentum the game could have had.

This isn't to say we would have won with a different ref as we were boring garbage first half but he certainly didnt ref the game in a manner to let it flow

[AdrianC]

I’ve said it before..... you know what comes next!

All games at the NLS level are filmed. Does the FA ever see the recordings, do they ever get passed on to the referee / assistants? Managers and players watch games back to pick out high or low lights for training purposes, surely this needs to happen to officials! Not trying to blame them but watching your performance back you might think that I did that well but may be not so well in other parts!

The above would be actual evidence rather than the hearsay of a post match ranting manager which the FA will always ignore!

[Brewers boy]

It's not just us. You only have to watch Match of the day to see how many times the officials get it wrong and VAR intervenes. Sometimes the VAR get's it wrong too.
Bad as it is it usually evens out over the season. certainly the incompetence of a lino worked in our favour against Worthing.

[desperado]

So we've got about 5 or 6 big decisions going our way over the next few months if you think that's likely to happen - unlikely !

[Hereford Gull66]

I was hoping that all the decisions will go our way in the playoffs!

[United62]

I might get shot down in flames for this, but at the end of they day they're only human, they f**k up like the rest of us - hands up anyone who's never made a mistake. And we have to be thankful that there are people out there who are willing to do this job. They get a shed load of abuse every game whether it be a decision for us or a decision against us, someone's going to moan about it. Yep, I swear and curse at a linesman like we all do when a decision goes against us (be it right or wrong) but we have to remember that without these officials (be they good or bad) there is no football.

[TheYellowFromExeter]

I might get shot down in flames for this, but at the end of they day they're only human, they f**k up like the rest of us - hands up anyone who's never made a mistake. And we have to be thankful that there are people out there who are willing to do this job. They get a shed load of abuse every game whether it be a decision for us or a decision against us, someone's going to moan about it. Yep, I swear and curse at a linesman like we all do when a decision goes against us (be it right or wrong) but we have to remember that without these officials (be they good or bad) there is no football.

I do completely agree with that, however the glaring issue I had (especially after the Tonbridge match) was that the linesman was chuckling to himself after disallowing the goal and then laughing with the referee at full time as if to really rub it into the fans.

[portugull]

Thanks for your thoughts on this issue.

I listened to Paul Wottons Press Call to day and it appears in all 3 cases, Welling, Chelmsford and Tonbridge the Club has been told that a mistake was made and admitted by the Authorities.

At least the errors have been acknowledged which does not get us the lost points but goes a little way to show these decisions are reviewed.

I do agree with United62 it is a fine line as all humans are prone to errors and if we give the Officials too hard a time they may conclude " sod you" and give up and we do need them we just wish they would cut out the glaring mistakes.

[Taelee73]

The disallowed goal was from a free kick, so it wasn't as if the linesman was running the line, which would be more understandable if he gets it wrong, he would have been standing still.
Even worse Jeffers made his run from the linesman's side and not the far side.

Humans are prone to making errors, but he had everything in his favour to get the decision correct, and was incompetent.and so it's more points we've lost.

Yes, I saw him and the ref smiling and laughing at the mild booing they received as they walked off. I wonder if they do reflect on things, especially when they find they've made a mistake.