Torquay v Boreham Wood Sat 1st March 3pm

[North Curry House]

Another difficult match to watch, especially the second half. We got battered,they hit the post before we conceded the first goal. Tha equaliser was the "final nail" today and was on the cards because of our tactics and lack of leadership. The manager tearing off his coat and going berserk was a sign that he did not have the answers and maybe the reason, we have lost TWO goal leads the last couple of Saturdays. We should of got a third, not sit back and invite trouble today.

Two points from nine is relegation form. On the evidence of the last three matches we will struggle to reach the playoffs and IF we do, it could mean winning THREE away games. That will not happen....just an honest assessment. We need Man management and leadership. I would like to see Neil Warnock working on the training sessions. He would not tolerate our obvious weaknesses being repeated week after week.

I hope for a reaction on Tuesday at Chippenham, PLEASE go all out for a win, in our position one point is NOT enough. COYY.

[North Curry House]

Another difficult match to watch, especially the second half. We got battered,they hit the post before we conceded the first goal. Tha equaliser was the "final nail" today and was on the cards because of our tactics and lack of leadership. The manager tearing off his coat and going berserk was a sign that he did not have the answers and maybe the reason, we have lost TWO goal leads the last couple of Saturdays. We should of got a third, not sit back and invite trouble today.

Two points from nine is relegation form. On the evidence of the last three matches we will struggle to reach the playoffs and IF we do, it could mean winning THREE away games. That will not happen....just an honest assessment. We need Man management and leadership. I would like to see Neil Warnock working on the training sessions. He would not tolerate our obvious weaknesses being repeated week after week.

I hope for a reaction on Tuesday at Chippenham, PLEASE go all out for a win, in our position one point is NOT enough. COYY.

[Gloomy Gull]

The manager tearing off his coat and going berserk was a sign that he did not have the answers and maybe the reason, we have lost TWO goal leads the last couple of Saturdays.

That’s a sweeping statement to make. Could the Manger’s reaction not be because the players were not following tactics and ignoring instructions from the sidelines?

[bobbytanz1963]

Same old repeat performance.
I could see that coming as we foolishly fell deeper and deeper towards Devon Road as we do.
Wood must have had 80% of the 2nd half possession. We have too many weaklings in the side and as I have said before we need a strong tackling leader since September.
That leader certainly ain’t Threkeld . Carson is far too weak for this level of football everybody can see this.
Credit to Wood who never gave up and dictated the press.
It feels like a loss and 2 points in 9 is far from title winning form.
Play offs at best, needs to be a home tie as the thought of away on any plastic and it’s Goodnight Vienna.

[bobbytanz1963]

Just a couple of pointers to be aware of in that the BW budget is over £1m plus they are at Truro on Tuesday and are staying down at a rather swish hotel in Cornwall. Money to burn whereas our budget is third of theirs and we are a a hybrid pt club. The source of the BW info being the Torbay Weekly reporter ex Herald Express before I’m questioned !!!!

We can blame certain players, I did at the game but we are limited on player numbers and quality !

Yes I was gutted at the final whistle BUT as I’ve said b4 remember where we were 12 months ago !

Our game management is appalling though and the so called experienced heads just can’t cutting it !

A win at Chippenham will make things look slightly better

[UnitedinDevon]

And BW would have stayed Friday night, huge amount of money to spend for a prolonged stay!

[PL21gull]

As ever lots of effort, and an encouraging debut by AZ, and class from MJ. However, 6 months into the season the gulf in style of play/tactics was oh so evident (yet again). I'm just left wondering where in the TU Coaching Manual it says:
- no need to control the midfield or to communicate with one another
- no need to keep possession, it's fine to hack the ball upfield to the opposition
- no need to throw-in to a teammate, you can just keep lobbing the ball to the opposition
- no need to try to create many goal-scoring chances, you might just nick a goal or two
- no need to stop the opposition making loads of chances to score, they are bound to miss some of them
- you can play triangles in the warm-up but no need to during the match
- it's sensible to substitute an energetic midfielder when another one is limping.
It's a good job we are a professional outfit, we might look a bit shambolic and clue-less otherwise.
COYY, you can play much smarter football than what was on display yesterday particularly in the second half but also after going 2 up.

[leetufc]

Wotton has to take his share of the blame for yesterday - poor substitutions and second half tactics really cost us. We went far too defensive too early, and we had so few outballs available. Threlkeld and Cooke were both poor when they came on.

There were some positives - Jay played well and is looking sharper with more matches under his belt. Zanzala looked an upgrade on Cooke upfront.

I know he scored a goal, but Young looked out of sorts again yesterday.

[Taelee73]

Yep I saw the player limping and wandered why he wasn’t subbed, buy tbh did he let the manager know he was injured, we only saw it just as the sub was coming on, I can’t remember now if it was the final substitution and so it was then too late.

The subs were all the correct ones in my opinion, bringing on defensive players, a striker for a striker and then a attacking player when the opposition were pushing forward and we needed to catch them on the break. The players coming off, none I think have played 90 minutes in the last month, although I agree WJD still looked full of running. Wotton makes his mind up quickly, someone made a mistake and he immediately got the sub ready. For me. Carson is a weak link, defensively he is often caught out and offensively he gave the ball away too often.

Unfortunately none of the subs did their jobs. Oscar has one good game in 4, Mussa one good run in 40 minutes, Cooke won no headers and just can’t hold the ball up like Jarvis did (to me he needs to bulk up a stone or two).

We have no game management skills that is obvious, seeing them hoof the ball away to no one was maddening I agree, but it must be difficult to practice managing a game out when we have no reserve side practice it. It is costing us dearly.

Wottons Truro side played attractive attacking football, I feel he knows the squad he has and has adapted it to play a certain way. In time he will bring in the players to replicate that side. But it takes time, not 6 months after being given a squad with 1 player in it. I’ve also read we have a budget half of Borehams, so fgs give them some slack. We have lost the fewest times in the division I think, but yes too many draws from winning positions, it’s that game management again.


Morons booing Wotton, clueless absolutely clueless. If we are playing that way in 12 months time then yes get angry and let them know it’s unacceptable, but in their first season? Was I fed up conceding 2 seconds from time, of course. We could all see it coming. The sensible ones however among us knew being champions in his first season would be a real stretch. I am sure a top ten finish with possibly a play off position would have been the owner’s instructions for this season and that’s exactly where our team is. Unfortunately our away form isn’t good enough, so realistically we have to be second or third. I am certain in the next 12 months we will continue to bring in the right players to boost the first team and the squad.

The players he has bought in are mostly doing just that, Young had an off day yesterday but is quality, Jay is a class above anyone in the squad.

It’ll take time, more than 6 months.

[culmstockgull]

Taelee, I agree with a lot of what you say but the majority of the squad are now in their 9th month considering we were playing friendlies last july. The half time chat amonsgt our group was how many boreham would eventually score because even two up they were stronger, faster and had more ideas than we did. First half ,we tried a press for all of 15 minutes, it started with three and in the end it was just Zanzala making the effort, besides dreyer, dyer and zanzala and palmer when he came on the team is to lightweight, our midfield positively avoided a tackle all match whereas boreham relished them, Thomas and carson gave their wingers far to much respect and space all game, allowing their wingers to run at us and cross with impunity.
Second half can only be described as a complete s--- show, what goes on in that changing room at half time is anyone's guess, because we were totally battered second half.
It matters little whether the players are letting the manager down or the manager letting the fans down what the last eight games have shown is promotion is a step too far us this season.

[Southampton Gull]

What is clear is that Talee will come up with more excuses than a Wotton post match interview in his defence of the manager. I do however agree that booing the manager at this time is clueless but that is what happens when you continually throw away a lead and draw/lose a game in the last few minutes, fans will become frustrated. Wotton needs to defend the players in public to keep the togetherness within the squad and he should be wise enough to do it. I just had a gut feeling the second goal for BW was coming and the inevitable happened.

The honeymoon period is over, we're all well aware of where we were a year ago, that it's a squad who had to get to know each other blah blah but by now a pattern should be emerging, unfortunately it is and it isn't a good one. Wotton promised that a team under him would never give up at any time in the game, well it looks like towards the end they certainly do. Let's at least look to protect a lead whether it has been earned or not.

The manager has been backed to the hilt by the board so I really hope he justifies their commitment to him, I'm just not sure he will. Either way the support from the fans for the club has been immense and keeping the fanbase onside is majorly important. The next few results are crucial so I hope the baying fans relent at games and continue to support the players, manager and the board.

[bobbytanz1963]

What is clear is that Talee will come up with more excuses than a Wotton post match interview in his defence of the manager. I do however agree that booing the manager at this time is clueless but that is what happens when you continually throw away a lead and draw/lose a game in the last few minutes, fans will become frustrated. Wotton needs to defend the players in public to keep the togetherness within the squad and he should be wise enough to do it. I just had a gut feeling the second goal for BW was coming and the inevitable happened.

The honeymoon period is over, we're all well aware of where we were a year ago, that it's a squad who had to get to know each other blah blah but by now a pattern should be emerging, unfortunately it is and it isn't a good one. Wotton promised that a team under him would never give up at any time in the game, well it looks like towards the end they certainly do. Let's at least look to protect a lead whether it has been earned or not.

The manager has been backed to the hilt by the board so I really hope he justifies their commitment to him, I'm just not sure he will. Either way the support from the fans for the club has been immense and keeping the fanbase onside is majorly important. The next few results are crucial so I hope the baying fans relent at games and continue to support the players, manager and the board.

I don’t think the boos were aimed at Wotton, maybe at the players who were rabbits in the headlights but definitely at the referee who was poor and liked the colour pink !!

Interesting slow walk past the open changing room windows as the manager was certainly speaking his mind !! Let’s say the air was a tad “ blue”

[Louis]

[Dave]

Stayed off all forums and platforms yesterday knowing there would be angry kneejerk reactions, not going to waste my time on the game.

For a start Wotton clearly came over the popside, he clearly signalled to angry fans spewing vitriol down the front, it was his fault , Wotton pointed to himself and shouted that was my fault.

Secondly were does this notion that Wotton has been backed to the hilt come from, the Bryn consortium revealed in the open fans forum last seasons player budget was £1 million, this season would start at £525k (figures from memory) so the days well my contact says are over on that subject.

So far Young, Morgan, Jay have come in, joined by Zanzala short term contract, Thomas is on loan with WJD, but most be noted that Ash, Seymour, Collins and Tomlinson have all left the club.

So the squad size hasn't really increased, I am not blindly supporting PW here, but I can see he's been hampered quite badly by a recent bout of illness in the camp, coupled with a few injuries has forced a few into overplaying, you can tired jaded players out there and it's balancing act for any manager.

[gateman49]

.........., Mussa one good run in 40 minutes,

Is that an aggregate of a number of matches as he was only on the pitch from about the 88th minute?