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SuperNickyWroe wrote: 02 May 2025, 09:25 Does it not have a safety cerificate then??? :whistle:
or safert
Saferty at sports grouds or safety certificates became law in 1975, did not prevent the bradford fire whose ground had a valid safety certificate or the hillsborough disaster, safety officials never consider worst case scenario's just what the club tells them is in place to mitigate it.
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culmstockgull wrote: 02 May 2025, 11:12 or safert
Saferty at sports grouds or safety certificates became law in 1975, did not prevent the bradford fire whose ground had a valid safety certificate or the hillsborough disaster, safety officials never consider worst case scenario's just what the club tells them is in place to mitigate it.
So, are you telling me that ther has been no improvement in safety and the implementation of imroved requirements for safety certificates since those two tragic events in the late 1980's??
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SuperNickyWroe wrote: 02 May 2025, 09:25 Does it not have a safety cerificate then??? :whistle:
I hope we have a safety certificate, the safety at sports grounds became law in around 1975, but did not stop the bradford fire or hillsborough. A safety certificate is granted around what is and not what may happen in worst case scenario.
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Can only agree with some of the comments, a lot of older/elderly fans sit in Bristows and I’ve seen a lot struggling up those steps or trying to get past people to their seats. I also agree from a selfish point of view, trying to get out after a match takes quite a while as we are all pretty much funnelled to one tight L shaped corner, I assume the only easy way on to the pitch in an emergency would via the gate the players use.

Why can’t we exit from the area by the away supporters, it’s not like we’re going to fight them and we just bump into them anyway when you’re heading to Warbro Road.
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culmstockgull wrote: 02 May 2025, 08:39 Any development must first look at the safety issues in bristows, I personally consider it close to dangerous, although my season ticket renewal is not in doubt it will no longer be in bristows, not a week goes by without witnessing a fall or a trip, the age demographic of bristow inhabitees is predomininetly elderly, heaven forbid there was a fire at the rear of the stand that required evacuation, it would be carnage. Even the vertical handrails between each block for support stop two thirds of the way down.
In terms of numbers it is the largest area of the ground but it only has one exit route,in the family stand and the pop side you can go backwards , forwards or sidewards in the event of needing to leave in a hurry, Bristows has a singular option, down very steep steps and then a barrier to the pitch so funnelling fans left tthrough a very narrow corridor towards the exit.
You are right, improvements need to be made in Bristow's. I go with my Dad, who is in his 80's. After being sat down for 2 hours the elderly naturally seize up. The handrail situation is sketchy at best. A major incident would be horrendous.

At work, we have fire training that shows a 10 minute video of Bradford City fire. To say it's harrowing, would be an understatement. We narrowly avoided a similar incident, and thankfully, the days of wooden stands and construction and smoking at matches are behind us. It that incident, the fire escalated hugely, in seconds.
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Probably should’ve had an under grandstand classroom width cut through, on the half way line like the Pop side, but that would mean the loss of a school classroom and at the time of deign/build only forecasted to be 1/2 full. Give all of Bristows to home fans and reconfigure Wollens to 50/50 home away with new separated turnstiles, exits, toilets and better choice mobile catering behind - guessing the current catering is still on a lease with the current catering firm(s)). Also consider 5 or 6 top row fire exits for emergency only which exit directly onto rear lane only 1m or so loss. Have ability to meet FA away allocation as a maximum only and be more greedy on home fan capacity. A nice problem to have though!
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Steve_TUFC wrote: 03 May 2025, 10:16 Probably should’ve had an under grandstand classroom width cut through, on the half way line like the Pop side, but that would mean the loss of a school classroom and at the time of deign/build only forecasted to be 1/2 full. Give all of Bristows to home fans and reconfigure Wollens to 50/50 home away with new separated turnstiles, exits, toilets and better choice mobile catering behind - guessing the current catering is still on a lease with the current catering firm(s)). Also consider 5 or 6 top row fire exits for emergency only which exit directly onto rear lane only 1m or so loss. Have ability to meet FA away allocation as a maximum only and be more greedy on home fan capacity. A nice problem to have though!
We’ve got a set of turnstiles by Exit 5 that haven’t been used in 20 years. But you have to allocate some seating to away fans, that’s probably in the rule book.
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Admiral wrote: 03 May 2025, 17:47 We’ve got a set of turnstiles by Exit 5 that haven’t been used in 20 years. But you have to allocate some seating to away fans, that’s probably in the rule book.
Understand and agree - have away seats and away standing created in a reconfigured 50/50 Wollens, just enough to meet the minimum in the rule book, so Bristows is for home seating only to instantly double entry and exit points plus room for new Bristow toilets and catering. Make hay while the sun shines.
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Interesting to consider options but at present a few sell outs or almost sell outs a season probably doesn't justify spending a lot to increase capacity. Today's game only sold out this morning so how many more could we have sold? Consider plans but lets get promoted before we spend significant money on increasing capacity.
Some kind of reconfiguration of the away end to allow home and away split would probably be the most cost effective. Simply putting seats in the end for away fans would only add about 350 for home fans - one block plus segregation area.
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Just put a row of seats with a crush bar behind in the front of the Wollens end and that provides seats and standing for away fans. That then opens up the whole of the bench to home fans. In this league you could probably even incorporate a fence in the middle (or any other fraction) and split it between home and away fans.
Cheap and simple.
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Admiral wrote: 03 May 2025, 17:47 We’ve got a set of turnstiles by Exit 5 that haven’t been used in 20 years. But you have to allocate some seating to away fans, that’s probably in the rule book.
Truro didn't.
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