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'Mansell ran straight through the Macclesfield defence and put it into the path of Mcphee. The pass arrived at his feet and he put the ball in the net!'

IMO there was no way it was McPhee's goal, he skewed his shot straight into the path of the defender who knocked it in the net for an OG.
Also the reason we looked better in the second half was because we managed to score against their 9 man defence so they had to change their tactics enabling us to have more space which meant that our playmakers could expose the weaknesses in their defence.
When a team comes with the intention of playing for a point it will always be a pretty boring game until we manage to score and I think alot of teams will be intent on playing defensively against us because they have seen over last season and this season to date that we are one of the better footballing sides when given time and space to play.

1. McPhee
2, Mansell
3. O'Kane

Carlisle 2 v 1 MK Dons
Chesterfield 2 v 1 Leyton Orient
Oldham 1 v 1 Huddersfield
Sheffield United 1v 1 Bury
Walsall 2 v 1 Brentford
AFC Wimbledon 2 v 2 Port Vale
Barnet 2v 1 Accrington Stanley
Crawley 3 v 1 Bristol Rovers
Hereford 1v 1 Dagenham and Redbridge
Morecambe 1v 1 Bradford

Tqy v Macclesfield (Full time) 3 -0
Tqy v Macclesfield (Half time 1 - 0
First Tqy scorer O’Kane

Aston Villa 1 v 1 Wolves (12:05 k/o)
Tottenham 1 v 1 Man City (Sunday)
Man U 2 v 0Arsenal (Sunday)
Crystal Palace 1v 1 Blackpool
Notts Forest 1 v 2 West Ham (Sunday)
Watford 1v 1 Birmingham (Sunday)
Brentford 2 v 1 Tranmere
Exeter 1 v 4 Chesterfield
Plymouth 1 v 6 Crewe
Rotherham 2 v 1 Gillingham

Full time: D & R 0 v 1 Tqy
Half time: D & R 0 v 0 Tqy
First Tqy scorer: Bodin

Sunderland 1-1 Newcastle
Arsenal 0-0 Liverpool
Norwich 1-1 Stoke
Swansea 1-1 Wigan
Brighton 1-1 Blackpool
Bristol City 1-2 Portsmouth
Burnley 2-1 Cardiff
Brentford 2-0 Leyton Orient
Carlisle 2-0 Bournemouth
Southend 1-1 Burton Albion

Full Time: Torquay 1-0 Crawley
Half Time: Torquay 0-0 Crawley
First Torquay Goalscorer: Howe

gullintwoplaces wrote:I would rather take a poor performance and three points than a great performance and one or zero points any day of the week. I know not everybody agrees with this, but for me it is winning that matters, always. I have seen enough games when we have murdered the opposition, only for a lucky late goal or two to rain on our parade. Well done, Martin Ling and the lads, may the luck continue (and better performances if possible)!

I agree totally
How many times over the last few seasons have we heard **** say We were the better team and were unlucky to draw/lose

1. Howe
2. Mansell

1. O'Kane
2. Olejnik
3. Howe

Peterborough 2-1 Crystal Palace
Reading 2-0 Millwall
Southampton 2-0 Leeds
Stevenage 5-1 Exeter
Tranmere 1-1 Chesterfield
Walsall 0-1 Leyton Orient
Wycombe 2-1 Scunthorpe
Port Vale 9-0 Crawley Town
Rotherham 2-1 Oxford Utd
Shrewsbury 2-0 Plymouth

Full Time: Torquay 2-0 Burton
Half Time: Torquay 0-0 Burton
First Torquay Goalscorer: Okane

Having watched the match unlike alot of the posters who have expressed an opinion, my view, which I am sure most of you will disagree with, is:
1. Rice
He was at fault for the second goal. Although it was a good shot, he was not unsighted as some might think, he was slightly out of position and much too slow getting down. Although to be fair to him if Lathrope had done his job properly there would have been no shot.
Also for the third goal, although unlucky, he was too slow getting down to save it in the first place.
Getting down to good low shots is his main weakness IMO. That said I am more than happy to have him as a backup. His shot stopping is ok and his distribution is also better then Bevan.
If he is called upon due to injury he will be able to do a decent job for the team in the very short term. There are not many strikers in League 2 who can hit good accurate shots into the bottom corner.
2. Ellis
Everyone knows that Ellis could be a very decent centre half, his biggest problem from the games I have seen him in is the fact that if he makes a mistake early in the game he seems to go to pot.
Against Burnley he completely misjudged a header and missed the ball by miles then a few minutes later he slipped when going to clear a ball. After this his game went to pot, whether this is because he then tries too hard to make amends or something else I don’t know.
I do know that this seems to be a recurrent theme in his games that I have seen. Early mistake he’s garbage no mistake he often puts in a MOM performance.
Another thing the game showed was that if O’Kane gets injured or goes off the boil which most players do at some time in the season, then we will be in serious problems against any teams with a decent midfield.
Overall I have been impressed with the team’s performances in the PSFs and looking forward to the start of the season. Of course confidence plays an important part in the game and if we get off to a shaky start in our first few games it could be a long season ahead as young player’s heads often drop a lot quicker than more seasoned pros.
Of course this is all just my opinion and most will see things from a completely different perspective but what the hey who cares it’s only a fans forum.

Boom Boom wrote:100k (?) - Benyon
125k - Rendell
20k - Carayol
100k plus - Barnett
5 figure fee - Tomlinson (Worksop to Macca)

50k - Zebroski ??? !!!!

Ha ha ha...... I'd shoot myself if we get that much for him.

quote="ferrarilover"]Fifty grand for Zebroski, not unreasonable, are you on crack?

Matt.[/quote]

CP Gull wrote: Maybe, maybe not ....

http://www.fansonline.net/macclesfieldt ... php?id=980

Twitter as reliable as wiki

the figure for Tyrone Barnett is an alleged figure. You will find out that it was considerably less, maybe even less than Zebs.

35k does appear a little low but it is much more realistic than some of the figures being bandied about on here.
If we paid 25k for him why should he now be valued at 150k ?
He hasn't suddenly improved all he has shown is that he is a reasonable forward for League 2.Previous experience shows he is not quite League 1 standard hence the reason Wycombe got rid of him.
Just as bad as the fee IMO is the fact everyone knew he was going but it took a month for the person in charge of transfers at Torquay to agree such a low figure (probably what PB originally offered). This has cost the club another 5k in wages, yet another example of the bad management here.

Won't be surprised if we only get @50k for Zebs. Which wouldn't be unreasonable IMO
Also what odds that LRT (who has same agent) moves as well?
Buckle seems to like him